"Well I think that welfare mothers and at-risk kids and ex-steel workers deserve a fountain in their life, and so the first thing that you see at my centre (a vocational institute in Pittsburgh) is [a fountain} because it sets an attitude and an expectation about how you feel about people.
"If you want to involve yourselves in the life of people who have been given up on, you have to look like the solution and not the problem."
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